tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post3140261449470093536..comments2024-03-28T17:56:00.841-07:00Comments on Grateful Dead Guide: Studio Outtakes 1965-1974Light Into Asheshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-78886037371347131632019-12-04T02:19:34.520-08:002019-12-04T02:19:34.520-08:00Where indeed? As far as we know, when they started...Where indeed? As far as we know, when they started working on Aoxomoxoa in summer '68, they just had a few songs - St Stephen, the Eleven, China Cat, Clementine & What's Become of the Baby - of which two wouldn't make the final album. All that's been shared from the Vault from the summer '68 sessions has been jams, leaving the impression that there wasn't much progressLight Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-36431979864322407562019-12-03T15:52:10.993-08:002019-12-03T15:52:10.993-08:00Yeah, the fact that this particular jam is based a...Yeah, the fact that this particular jam is based around a single chord makes me doubt that it's a step toward composition a la Blues for Allah—it doesn't sound like anything that is only waiting for a set of Hunter lyrics to turn into a conventional song. But I like the idea that it might have been a way to blow off steam between studio takes of something else, and who knows what the DeadDavenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-40225049333886360212019-12-03T03:21:27.404-08:002019-12-03T03:21:27.404-08:00Yes, that was a fascinating little jam. I also get...Yes, that was a fascinating little jam. I also get a strong Hartbeats-type vibe from it. Sounds like Lesh wants to move into the Eleven but it doesn't take. I'm going to guess that's Constanten on organ since it doesn't seem like Pigpen's usual style. (Sounds like Pigpen to me on the 8/13/68 jams.)<br /><br />Maybe this was a jam in between regular takes of some track like theLight Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-59714352234411817952019-12-02T19:12:25.617-08:002019-12-02T19:12:25.617-08:00The 2019 edition of 30 Days of Dead contains a stu...The 2019 edition of 30 Days of Dead contains a studio jam identified as being from the early Aoxomoxoa sessions and dated as "9/1/68" (though that might just mean sometime in September). It has a similar vibe to the August '68 jams previously released as Aoxomoxoa bonus tracks. The playing is quite evocative, with unusually prominent organ and repeated touches towards the end by Davenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-43870611071983664022019-11-13T03:14:52.903-08:002019-11-13T03:14:52.903-08:00I think you are right that this is the original so...I think you are right that this is the original soundtrack. This version of the film is available on the video compilation "Haight Street Chronicles Vol 2" where it follows the "Anthem Of The Sun" third version.runonguinnesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11089424718490613109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-49856944272817260772019-11-12T22:58:15.449-08:002019-11-12T22:58:15.449-08:00An alternate soundtrack for Robert Nelson's 19...An alternate soundtrack for Robert Nelson's 1967 Grateful Dead film has surfaced: <br />https://www.shnflac.net/index.php?page=torrent-details&id=e27c475763f4a4435312af5d2be4bd3eeca6ac1e <br /><br />This was probably recorded around May 1967 in the Dead's rehearsal space at the Heliport in Sausalito, where Nelson did some filming. It's 7 minutes long, and sounds like three loose Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-9602133176566718562018-05-14T14:03:27.462-07:002018-05-14T14:03:27.462-07:00I've updated the post.I've updated the post.Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-53225507306217569782016-09-01T16:42:04.768-07:002016-09-01T16:42:04.768-07:00A cleaner version of the Barbed Wire Whipping Part...A cleaner version of the Barbed Wire Whipping Party mix #2 (the short 1:20 mix) is tagged onto the end of the 9/17/69 tape - for the Barbed Wire aficionados who want the best quality! <br />https://archive.org/details/gd1969-09-17.136664.sbd.Sirmick.flac16 Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-87031895577309064772016-08-04T18:38:21.704-07:002016-08-04T18:38:21.704-07:00Some more early-'66 rehearsals have surfaced, ...Some more early-'66 rehearsals have surfaced, listed in the "1966 Songs" post: <br /><br />1/66 - the full Viola Lee Blues tape ends with a Cardboard Cowboy rehearsal <br />1/66 - "Wandering Man," a lost Phil song <br />3/9/66 - an unknown Pigpen R&B original; Who Do You Love; weird modal jam. <br />3/10/66 - Sittin' on Top of the World (several takes)<br /> <br />Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-19549812237361819752016-08-01T14:33:47.160-07:002016-08-01T14:33:47.160-07:00A couple new discoveries:
- a short rehearsal at...A couple new discoveries: <br /><br />- a short rehearsal at Bear's house in LA, February 1966: /Hi Heel Sneakers, Viola Lee Blues. <br />- a studio rehearsal, thought to be from 9/12/68 Pacific Recording: Clementine (extensive takes) with TC(?) on organ, a guest guitarist & Phil on vocals, and then a wild jam. One of the most interesting and revelatory studio tapes by far. Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-44748998834435634622015-09-29T19:11:30.751-07:002015-09-29T19:11:30.751-07:00Some takes of Saw Mill also surfaced from the same...Some takes of Saw Mill also surfaced from the same session: <br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87gltd7bR9o <br /><br />It's still unknown what else was rehearsed, and if it was an actual studio session or a regular Dead rehearsal that happened to be taped. <br /><br />Made a few corrections to this post.Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-79218368130273292992015-08-03T17:02:20.119-07:002015-08-03T17:02:20.119-07:00A new studio outtake has surfaced:
https://www.yo...A new studio outtake has surfaced: <br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3x_Vh10HPI <br />A few takes of Seasons of My Heart from September 1969, with Constanten on organ & Garcia on pedal steel. Weir, Lesh & Garcia practice the harmony vocals. <br /><br />So far, no other information is known about this session.Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-62760776550452685972015-03-05T22:34:44.371-08:002015-03-05T22:34:44.371-08:00Sometime in the fall of 1971, Bob Weir made a tape...Sometime in the fall of 1971, Bob Weir made a tape of acoustic demos for Ace, which I think David Gans played on one of the KPFA marathons years ago. The early takes are instrumental - the purpose was probably to help Barlow write lyrics for the songs. The demos are all just Weir on an acoustic guitar; it sounds like Barlow is taping him.<br />The tape has: <br />"C Shuffle" (Walk in Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-67371002213836735242014-04-25T21:34:29.714-07:002014-04-25T21:34:29.714-07:00Researcher Michael Sheflin writes of the supposed ...Researcher Michael Sheflin writes of the supposed 1965 track "Speed Limit" used on the "LSD: A Documentary Report" record: <br />"I spoke with Lawrence Schiller, who made the original record that sampled this tape. The group was called Fire and Ice, from LA."<br /><br />This is apparently the same Fire and Ice Ltd. known for the 1966 "psychedelic" record &Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-61491591174630335142013-08-07T21:00:46.235-07:002013-08-07T21:00:46.235-07:00From Timothy White's October 1989 interview wi...From Timothy White's October 1989 interview with Garcia & Weir - <br /><br />Q: Have you guys ever made an album you wouldn't dare release for some stylistic reason? <br />GARCIA: There are certain cuts, like "Barbed Wire Whipping Party," which is out anyway among the fans. I don't know where they got it from, but it's out on the streets. It's not exactly a song,Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-45330032046634284362013-08-04T14:46:57.377-07:002013-08-04T14:46:57.377-07:00I'm late to commenting on this, but it's a...I'm late to commenting on this, but it's an indispensable list. For me personally, many of these tracks came as "filler" on various cassettes, so although I had heard them, I never could be certain where they came from. It's great to see them all on one list.<br /><br />Completely fascinating to find out about the strange back history of the circulation of the TC/Tarot Corry342https://www.blogger.com/profile/08049035074121231425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-81756842662266028202013-08-01T13:38:19.601-07:002013-08-01T13:38:19.601-07:00TC himself said so? Hmm... It's also surprisin...TC himself said so? Hmm... It's also surprising to get a confirmed date of 1970, earlier than I expected.<br />I wish there were a tape of that interview, and one that included just the tracks aired on KSAN - our "Tarot outtakes" do seem to be a jumble of different things. <br /><br />It's funny that Garcia's involvement in Constanten's Tarot projects in 1970 is always Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-55416243614398894582013-08-01T06:03:19.544-07:002013-08-01T06:03:19.544-07:00I was the source for the Tarot sessions including ...I was the source for the Tarot sessions including Garcia, Lesh, Hart, and Richard Greene. Taped off of KSAN in 1970, when TC visited their studios. He was the one who rattled off the names of the players, although I did not record his interview. What circulates now includes some other tracks of questionable provenance that may have included Touchstone, the group with which TC recorded the Tarot cryptdevhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13944617292210813801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-51500017695774428442013-07-31T07:31:09.286-07:002013-07-31T07:31:09.286-07:00agreed. it's clearly all downhill from here.agreed. it's clearly all downhill from here.jermenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-3664553767405774782013-07-31T00:20:34.995-07:002013-07-31T00:20:34.995-07:00A Barbed Wire Whipping Party alternate mix, who wo...A Barbed Wire Whipping Party alternate mix, who would've thought? And of all places, on a Built to Last outtake tape... <br /><br />Studying mix variations in Barbed Wire Whipping Party is surely the highpoint of any Dead scholar's endeavors! Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-36623000843912381112013-07-30T14:10:54.877-07:002013-07-30T14:10:54.877-07:00thanks for the post.
fwiw, there is what appear...thanks for the post. <br /><br />fwiw, there is what appears to be another mix of Barbed Wire Whipping Party on here:<br />http://archive.org/details/gd88-06-01.sbd.munder.20606.sbeok.shnf<br /><br />some of the voices that are buried in the background from the Troy reel version are way out front here, i am able to understand what they are saying for the first time... also it starts with more jermenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-19548417829071937482013-07-30T12:43:23.190-07:002013-07-30T12:43:23.190-07:00Thanks for catching things I missed! I made the co...Thanks for catching things I missed! I made the corrections. <br /><br />Lossless Legs links could be provided for everything here, but in general I eschew them since torrent sites are not as universally available as Archive streams. Anyone on that site can readily find them, though.Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-52101454255841653512013-07-30T02:57:10.561-07:002013-07-30T02:57:10.561-07:00Here’s some additions:
Cardboard Cowboy is on the...Here’s some additions:<br /><br />Cardboard Cowboy is on the bonus disc distributed with Phil’s book, Searching For The Sound.<br /><br />There is another Cream Puff War, it’s a hidden track after Caution on Rare Cuts. They abort it when Jerry forgets the words. It sounds like it is from the same session as the complete version.<br /><br />http://archive.org/details/gd1966-12-05.sbd.kimbro.23064.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-85572128434488340322013-07-29T13:13:58.081-07:002013-07-29T13:13:58.081-07:00To put it another way, the Scorpio sessions we col...To put it another way, the Scorpio sessions we collectors have on tape all come from producer Gene Estribou's home studio. If he used another studio for the single, I'm not sure if it was for dubbing, mixing, better equipment or what.<br /><br />The Anthem studio sessions are particularly tangled, with the Dead recording & mixing in several studios in CA, NY and FL over several monthsLight Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-61711582088880319732013-07-29T09:57:24.922-07:002013-07-29T09:57:24.922-07:00Great post. However, could you clarify who you mea...Great post. However, could you clarify who you mean by "our" and "his" in this statement?<br /><br />"However, all of our sessions seem to be from his Buena Vista home studio."<br />Dr. Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17771229779025430726noreply@blogger.com