tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post3322513435283763168..comments2024-03-28T17:56:00.841-07:00Comments on Grateful Dead Guide: 1967 Dead TapesLight Into Asheshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-49655442973798334672018-04-26T22:46:14.436-07:002018-04-26T22:46:14.436-07:00The announcement for the upcoming Anthem of the Su...The announcement for the upcoming Anthem of the Sun 50th-anniversary release says that 10/22/67 was "the first known recording of the Grateful Dead with Mickey Hart." <br />But I hear only one drummer, Bill, on the 10/22/67 recording. Unless some new details emerge in the remaster, I don't think Mickey played that show. <br />Some more discussion about the timeline of Mickey's Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-41444978704088577212018-03-14T18:01:40.590-07:002018-03-14T18:01:40.590-07:00A new copy of 11/11/67 has come out, which is most...A new copy of 11/11/67 has come out, which is mostly from the same mono copy as before, and is missing the Other One suite from the show, but is otherwise more complete in several places: <br />- an announcer (?) intro to Lovelight: "Take this place apart!" <br />- some extra tuning and banter<br />- a previously unknown Beat It On Down The Line (in stereo), with severe mixing issues <Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-52441387261510866562017-08-16T17:32:35.590-07:002017-08-16T17:32:35.590-07:00Yes, I've seen that - Laughlin being hired by ...Yes, I've seen that - Laughlin being hired by KMPX at the end of September '67 - and it may well pin down this show. There aren't many choices for the date anyway. The Dead, in fact, played no indoor shows in San Francisco in Aug-Sept '67, except for the two shows at the Straight on Sep 29-30. <br />(For further comment on this, see http://hooterollin.blogspot.com/2016/04/Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-58786552800822169582017-08-16T15:36:38.263-07:002017-08-16T15:36:38.263-07:00About Chandler Laughlin + "5/5/67": Acco...About Chandler Laughlin + "5/5/67": According to Susan Krieger's KMPX history, "Hip Capitalism", his release was the end of September: https://books.google.com/books?id=5UofAQAAIAAJ&lpg=PA3&dq=hip%20capitalism&pg=PA47#v=onepage&q=laughlin%20marijuana%20charges&f=false<br /><br />That might put "5/5/67" closer to the end of September. Could it Jessehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08985467102325218695noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-70963093619502950462016-03-11T20:38:34.148-08:002016-03-11T20:38:34.148-08:00The 30 Trips Alligator is definitely the same that...The 30 Trips Alligator is definitely the same that was on both the Sacks SBDs of 11/10 and 11/11. When copies of Healy's reels came into circulation, the Alligator was on 11/10 but not 11/11. But then when the alternate 30 Days Alligator came out, it was credited to 11/10. And now on 30 Trips, we find the old familiar Alligator credited to 11/10 as well. So what's going on? Either they Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-52168583374195682602016-03-11T07:06:23.346-08:002016-03-11T07:06:23.346-08:00So the 30 days release had the 11/10 Alligator whi...So the 30 days release had the 11/10 Alligator which was different from the one on 11/10&11 shows we've had, the 30 Trips release of 11/10 is different so it must be 11/11. Do you believe this '11/11' one on the 30 Trips to be the same as the one on the Sack's sbds?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07343340443842434237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-18499032978316560182016-03-11T01:09:23.432-08:002016-03-11T01:09:23.432-08:00The Dead could have pointed out narcs at any numbe...The Dead could have pointed out narcs at any number of shows. <br />"5/5/67" isn't confirmed as anything, but it's probably from Aug/Sept '67, when the Dead played hardly any San Francisco shows, so the location is a mystery. It's very unlikely to be the Fillmore or Avalon. <br />The Dead played the Avalon in January and March '67.Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-80618545022247228142016-03-10T18:06:59.885-08:002016-03-10T18:06:59.885-08:00My parents were just telling me they saw the Dead ...My parents were just telling me they saw the Dead in SF in '67 and they remember one of them pointing out a narc in the audience. According to archive.org the show was 5/5/67 at the Fillmore where Phil made that comment. My parents remember it being at the Avalon. But their memories may be hazy. Anyone know if 5/5/67 is confirmed as the Fillmore? Or maybe the the recording on archive.org has Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17529042435566783935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-9847348234814638022016-01-04T21:16:38.254-08:002016-01-04T21:16:38.254-08:00Garcia remembers the Toronto '67 shows, in the...Garcia remembers the Toronto '67 shows, in the new interview book Jerry on Jerry: <br />"They were terrible shows. Oh, we played so badly. There was a huge loud buzz and we were ready to fire Weir... The band was in total turmoil during those gigs. We were just coming apart at the seams... Those gigs were terribly fuckin' depressing. Our stuff didn't work right and the buzz was Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-35950641056428924982015-09-30T18:12:48.481-07:002015-09-30T18:12:48.481-07:00By the way, I believe that on the new 30 Trips rel...By the way, I believe that on the new 30 Trips release of 11/10/67, New Potato Caboose and Alligator>Caution are actually taken from the 11/11 show. But only the Vault tapes could confirm that.<br /><br />Made a few more updates & corrections in this post.Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-1738627628724874882014-04-29T10:35:24.571-07:002014-04-29T10:35:24.571-07:00Looks like you forgot this TV date: https://archiv...Looks like you forgot this TV date: https://archive.org/details/gd67-04-08.tv.hanno.12623.sbeok.shnfBruno Renatohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13461439666978473809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-72864152905080040182014-02-10T21:17:30.328-08:002014-02-10T21:17:30.328-08:00This post has been updated.This post has been updated.Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-72183144617079040922013-11-28T17:06:42.360-08:002013-11-28T17:06:42.360-08:00Yes, a new Alligator>Caution!
http://rhino.edg...Yes, a new Alligator>Caution! <br />http://rhino.edgeboss.net/download/rhino/gdead/30days/2013/day27_g48baxb_alligatorcaution.mp3 <br /><br />Since this is credited to 11/10, the one we had must be from 11/11. The stereo sound is far superior to the circulating mostly-mono Shrine tapes.<br /><br />All we know of the Lovelight rehearsal is that it has to predate 7/23/67; and my guess is it'Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-22510301709845608102013-11-28T14:38:40.289-08:002013-11-28T14:38:40.289-08:00The new '30 Days Of The Dead' day 27 has a...The new '30 Days Of The Dead' day 27 has an Alligator>Caution credited to 1967-11-10 which is not the same as the one we have had for ages credited to either the 10th (with a splice) or the 11th. The yelps at the start are different and so is Jerry's post drums 'Alligator running round my door' stuff with Bobby 'mopping up my floor' on the new one. The sound qualityAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-6517505094398760242013-07-25T01:04:21.876-07:002013-07-25T01:04:21.876-07:00More on the October '67 studio session:
Afte...More on the October '67 studio session: <br /><br />After a close comparison, the mysterious studio Smokestack Lightning is simply the 11/19/66 live version again, but in mono, slowed-down, and faded-out early. <br />Strange how many times that 11/19/66 Smokestack surfaced on tapes as a 1967 studio track from one date or another!<br /><br />The Lovelight is also not from the fall '67 Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-51818184564184076062012-01-01T19:20:45.750-08:002012-01-01T19:20:45.750-08:00Checking 5/5/67 again, I'm pretty sure there&#...Checking 5/5/67 again, I'm pretty sure there's only one drummer throughout, so it's definitely pre-Mickey. (Deadbase used to assert that there were two drummers in Alligator, hence the show must be 9/29/67, but that was false. Could be the right month, though I lean towards August '67.)<br /><br />Anyway, I should also mention here that there's some debate about whether our 11Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-44500478002297749912011-10-20T20:17:38.181-07:002011-10-20T20:17:38.181-07:00I was checking the "10-20-67" studio ses...I was checking the "10-20-67" studio session to see if I could pin down an accurate date for it. All we know for sure is that it comes from the Sep/Oct '67 Anthem sessions. <br /><br />Fortunately we can compare it to a nearby show - 10/22/67. <br />If you check the Lovelight from the studio session, it's obviously earlier than the 10/22 show. Pigpen & the band sing it Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-71248967859342079912011-10-19T16:53:03.062-07:002011-10-19T16:53:03.062-07:00As noted in the "Crowded Dead Stage" pos...As noted in the "Crowded Dead Stage" post, the 7/23/67 tape of Neal Casady rapping with the Dead is just an excerpt from a longer tape, presumably held by Hank Harrison. It would be nice to hear the whole thing... <br /><br />Harrison included this recording as an acetate flexidisc with his 1973 Dead Book, with some notes: <br />"The audience, consisting mostly of young people fromLight Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-39949149275622893982011-07-11T21:47:51.244-07:002011-07-11T21:47:51.244-07:00I forgot to mention this earlier - but in the Tape...I forgot to mention this earlier - but in the Taper's Section, David Lemieux noted that the Dead played for a week in Toronto in '67 (July 31-August 5). <br />"Unfortunately there are reels in the vault clearly marked with the date and venue of some of these shows, which have been scratched out, as the tapes were recorded over."<br /><br />Heartbreaking news! But sadly typical Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-19072691138265467312010-07-23T21:08:07.737-07:002010-07-23T21:08:07.737-07:00Charlie Miller has noted that the 1-14-67 Morning ...Charlie Miller has noted that the 1-14-67 Morning Dew is actually not from 1-14-67. <br /><br />The tape source is different; it has different sound quality; the band's playing is different than in the other songs; he hears two drummers in this Dew. (The crowd at the end also sounds like an 'indoor' audience to me.)<br /><br />In fact, I don't think it's from '67 at all - Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.com