tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post6183464414974614972..comments2024-03-17T11:10:04.872-07:00Comments on Grateful Dead Guide: The Allmans & The DeadLight Into Asheshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-63131530639482129262024-02-29T10:41:14.282-08:002024-02-29T10:41:14.282-08:00I'm sure if Jerry had died within two years of...I'm sure if Jerry had died within two years of GD's debut there would never had been the 'maniacal' taping and setlist collecting for the Dead, either. Besides, even with Duane, the Allmans played the same set every night. Karystrancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17813926409197376728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-23349276031818253372019-03-10T15:02:45.729-07:002019-03-10T15:02:45.729-07:00Thank you,
2 of my favorite bands.I love jam band...Thank you, <br />2 of my favorite bands.I love jam bands and lead guitar is a favorite mineHead case blueshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02039532124777604669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-28100654308973055652017-09-22T10:58:07.709-07:002017-09-22T10:58:07.709-07:00Thanks LIA. Makes me appreciate all that you and ...Thanks LIA. Makes me appreciate all that you and others do to shed light on our favorite bands! Thank you!!Marc Reynoldshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12297029918592940729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-6098599938512284252017-09-20T11:41:38.742-07:002017-09-20T11:41:38.742-07:00Well, the Allmans trading policy forbids their sho...Well, the Allmans trading policy forbids their shows from being on torrent sites (like etree, etc) or the Archive - they only want shows traded, not downloaded. It's a shame that's still the policy these days, and there have been many complaints over the years (on the Hittin' the Web forum, for instance), but the Allmans are still opposed to downloads & electronic file-sharing. <Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-31443618956586527562017-09-19T09:31:08.353-07:002017-09-19T09:31:08.353-07:00Is anyone else surprised at the lack of websites f...Is anyone else surprised at the lack of websites for setlists, live streaming, and overall in-depth conversation associated with the Allmans, particularly in comparison to the GD? The official "Hittin' the Web" site is pathetic. I can't find any sites that live stream shows. There's a real lack of shows on standard trading sites (etree, etc.). What gives? My best guess Marc Reynoldshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12297029918592940729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-55657121805134970932017-06-05T17:23:30.424-07:002017-06-05T17:23:30.424-07:00"Contrary to popular belief, the Allman Broth..."Contrary to popular belief, the Allman Brothers were not a Georgia band."<br /><br />I'm not sure why you would want to deny the Georgia connection, as Macon was certainly their adopted home. Duane signed with Capricorn in January 1969, and as quickly as Duane could put the right people together, they all moved to Macon. They played, recorded, ate, breathed, and lived on the Gayehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18326999141730044776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-42112220408316299972017-05-19T21:52:31.606-07:002017-05-19T21:52:31.606-07:00It's mentioned here:
https://www.duaneallman....It's mentioned here: <br />https://www.duaneallman.info/chronologypart1.htm <br />The source was Ann Sandlin (author of A Never-Ending Groove), who researched Duane's comings & goings in '68: <br />http://www.allmanbrothersband.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=XForum&file=viewthread&tid=51920 (10/29/06 post)<br />But I don't know whether Betts or Oakley went to the Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-58409260286383608722017-05-19T09:10:58.792-07:002017-05-19T09:10:58.792-07:00So kind of you to respond with such detail. When y...So kind of you to respond with such detail. When you say "we know at least Duane was at the Dec '68 Miami Pop Festival", may I ask for corroboration of that, please? [I ask because I'm doing a book on the festival and I'd love to know for certain.] I wonder if I should try to get in touch with Dickey.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-71945543848897729032017-05-17T12:29:48.638-07:002017-05-17T12:29:48.638-07:00The only source for that is Garcia. He talked abou...The only source for that is Garcia. He talked about the Allmans in a 1973 interview: <br />"It’s kind of like playing with us the way we were five years ago. Musically and set-up wise, they’re kind of similar to the way we used to be. They especially sounded like us when they were the original Allman Brothers. They had two drummers, two guitars, organ and bass...exactly the instrumentation Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-7071956146919877952017-05-17T08:53:45.814-07:002017-05-17T08:53:45.814-07:00I have previously stumbled across the observation ...I have previously stumbled across the observation about the Allman Brothers first seeing The Dead at the December '68 Miami Pop Festival, but I've never found a solid corroboration of it. Do you know of anyone who can verify it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-56305287897705575142017-01-15T21:34:34.452-08:002017-01-15T21:34:34.452-08:00As it happens, that jam comes from the 2/14/68 All...As it happens, that jam comes from the 2/14/68 Alligator, and there's no edit there, it's the same length in the show as on the album. See around 6:30 in the post-drums Alligator jam here: <br />https://archive.org/details/gd1968-02-14.sbd.miller.89676.sbeok.flac16 <br />For that matter, Garcia rarely quoted "There Is A Mountain" for any longer than that at any show - it was Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-89680055786283924282017-01-15T21:01:46.904-08:002017-01-15T21:01:46.904-08:00"The melody shows up on Anthem of the Sun, at..."The melody shows up on Anthem of the Sun, at the 9:00 point in Alligator....but it's over within 20 seconds."<br /><br />It's hard to draw any conclusions from Anthem because while there were only 20 seconds on the record, it could have come from a much longer jam. That album is spliced together from many bits, lots of which are around 20 seconds, or even less.Bass Around the Worldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14381608235954731474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-40937363325212137902016-11-27T16:12:22.102-08:002016-11-27T16:12:22.102-08:00Love this blog, thanks for what you do here. I lik...Love this blog, thanks for what you do here. I like both the Dead and Allman's, but I will listen to a Dead show over the Allman's 95% of the time. So..... On Mountain Jam, for years I thought it was an Allman's tune. But, it shows up on Anthem of the Sun and in at least one show I have heard from 1968, poor quality but wonderful recording from May 18, 1968 (taped from Jorma's micVirgilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02889205560561227590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-72889125685394896142016-05-27T07:44:34.911-07:002016-05-27T07:44:34.911-07:00I was at Watkins Glen and the moment I remember mo...I was at Watkins Glen and the moment I remember most is the jam between Jerry Garcia and Dickey Betts. As a light rain began to fall they stood at the back of the stage just softly noodling their guitars, together without any other band members involved. Very slowly and gradually the intensity grew as they moved to the front of the stage, their guitars styles entwining with each other to an awe Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-75579006182128643182016-03-27T13:58:07.041-07:002016-03-27T13:58:07.041-07:00As a session guitarist and performer for more than...As a session guitarist and performer for more than 45 plus years, I can say without hesitation that Garcia's influence on both Duane and Dickey is beyond obvious. Garcia's diatonic approach, his clean tone and vibrato-less attack, his use of the major pentatonic scale with its distinctive bluegrass/country phrasing, make this evident. There are other things about the Dead's music thatmarksmagulahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07141015092110042213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-41400155650715068252016-02-27T02:51:29.149-08:002016-02-27T02:51:29.149-08:00Ah - thanks! these are very strong arguments for ...Ah - thanks! these are very strong arguments for 07-17. We have to re-date the pics.ruppi43https://www.blogger.com/profile/02687238969252856314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-53333815544606978062016-02-26T22:19:19.362-08:002016-02-26T22:19:19.362-08:00The contract for the Gaelic Park show would have b...The contract for the Gaelic Park show would have been for 7/13/72 - but did it actually take place that day? <br />That ABB page has three people saying that the show was moved to Monday the 17th, after the Dead's show of the 16th: <br />"I have my ticket stub and it is 7/17/72." <br />"On 7/13/72 it rained in the Bronx which probably postponed the show." <br />"ThereLight Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-79408818892132051612016-02-26T11:52:44.854-08:002016-02-26T11:52:44.854-08:00The live show database on the ABB site has the 197...The live show database on the ABB site has the 1972 Gaelic Park gig w/the guest jam by Garcia, Weir and Kreutzmann (as pics show) as 1972-07-13 --- not 07-17. And proves this date by saying "7/13/72 verified by band contract". So it took place three days before Betts, Oakley, Jaimoe (and others ?) jammed at the Dead's Hartford gig 1972-07-16.ruppi43https://www.blogger.com/profile/02687238969252856314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-58640062126287186872015-12-23T18:36:18.998-08:002015-12-23T18:36:18.998-08:00Your memory is right! 11/27/81 at the Tangerine Bo...Your memory is right! 11/27/81 at the Tangerine Bowl in Orlando: <br />http://www.rockshowvideos.com/rocksuperbowl13.html <br /><br />It was canceled because only 10,000 tickets sold. According to an article at the time: <br />"Nine years ago, the Allman Brothers Band and the Grateful Dead teamed up for the Watkins Glen Summer Jam in upstate New York and drew 600,000 fans-the largest crowd Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-24328669120567333382015-12-23T14:35:44.523-08:002015-12-23T14:35:44.523-08:00Greg was a target of narcs who didn't want to ...Greg was a target of narcs who didn't want to got to jail to protect a mobster. Scooter was more afraid of the mobster than jail and made a different choice. The guy the feds were targettng was no international drug brother, but a lot of people didn't bother to get the real story at the time.<br /><br />If memory serves (maybe not a safe bet), there was supposed to be a Allmans/Dead drkricknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-58461952047274895952015-10-18T13:11:22.011-07:002015-10-18T13:11:22.011-07:00Greg was a narc, wasn't he? Not much controver...Greg was a narc, wasn't he? Not much controversy about that, as far as I'm aware.Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11197047338808328394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-84698600851747850772015-08-03T10:50:53.531-07:002015-08-03T10:50:53.531-07:00Though the two bands pretty much stopped interacti...Though the two bands pretty much stopped interacting after 1973, I don't think this had to do with changes in musical style. The Dead went on hiatus in late '74; by the time they returned in mid-'76, the Allmans were in disarray and had broken up. By then Gregg also held a grudge against Jerry for his "narc" comment. But even if that wasn't the case, by the time the Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-17065461583047892782015-08-03T01:00:28.044-07:002015-08-03T01:00:28.044-07:00I accept the fact that 1970 was 45 years ago. One&...I accept the fact that 1970 was 45 years ago. One's memories are not just to be cherished but also made throughout ONE'S ENTIRE LIFE. Settling for nostalgia is depressing and lame. "If you won't act alive, I won't either and we'll both say how happy we WERE." <br /><br />Spare me. <br /> <br />Some of us decided our lives would be a series of ongoing adventures. I&#D. Pluggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06381739478942315768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-73922768985114213672015-08-02T18:39:17.727-07:002015-08-02T18:39:17.727-07:00A fan of both Allmans since 69 dead since 71 the w...A fan of both Allmans since 69 dead since 71 the were somewhat similar when they fist met 69-71 Pig Was still a force in the dead they were a bit more blues based...by the mid 70's the Deads music had gone in a different direction as had the Allmans with Dickey Betts and Chuck Leavel the two prime instrumentalist there was less interplay...pretty sure Jerry called Greg a narc there was some Enlightened Roguehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15570013027077375646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-31804197087923415052015-02-23T16:28:14.607-08:002015-02-23T16:28:14.607-08:00Umm, you're the idiot... They weren't abou...Umm, you're the idiot... They weren't about "psychedelic bs"? Then maybe you can explain why every member of the group has a psychedelic mushroom tattoo?? Or when Gregg Allman talks in his book about how they would all take shrooms all day and practice/play for hours? Or all the other substances they frequently indulged in over the years. Maybe they weren't psychedelic in Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com