tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post5344801350161502858..comments2024-03-27T02:55:04.190-07:00Comments on Grateful Dead Guide: New Potato CabooseLight Into Asheshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-90563078873265720532020-12-03T17:50:29.980-08:002020-12-03T17:50:29.980-08:00Underrated piece, for sure.
That must have been a...Underrated piece, for sure. <br />That must have been an adventurous radio program to play an obscure B-side like Born Cross-Eyed! <br />Since the original Anthem album had no gaps between tracks on the record, that made it quite difficult for DJs to play any single song off the record. Airplay must have been very limited. Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-13219189819760350282020-12-03T08:28:14.705-08:002020-12-03T08:28:14.705-08:00It was New Potato Caboose that got me on the bus i...It was New Potato Caboose that got me on the bus in 1968. Living in the UK, I was aware of the Dead but had probably only heard Born Crosseyed once on the radio. I read a review of Anthem so, in my local record store, I asked to listen to it and they put on side 1. Hmm... OK, bit weird in the middle (the prepared piano) then NPC. Some great great jamming after the vocals - I hadn't heard Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02810299638854859995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-60522721787822649012020-08-23T02:44:09.656-07:002020-08-23T02:44:09.656-07:00What seems most likely to me is that if it is some...What seems most likely to me is that if it is something, it is something played at a different tempo, maybe harmonically a little different...different enough that it clicks in the brain of those who've heard it, but they can't ID it. Like when you see someone who is totally familiar but you have no idea who they are, it turns out they've changed, dyed their hair, whatever...bzfgthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11067060434661997784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-11444099665471333622020-08-16T23:53:46.473-07:002020-08-16T23:53:46.473-07:00Maybe. No source has been found yet after all thes...Maybe. No source has been found yet after all these years, even though several people have thought they heard that theme somewhere before...but I still hold out hope that it wasn't just a mirage!Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-27386027443998160152020-08-16T02:12:37.024-07:002020-08-16T02:12:37.024-07:00It seems like someone would have identified the Ph...It seems like someone would have identified the Phil thing by now if it was going to be identified...is it possible it just sounds inevitable in a way that makes everyone think they've heard it?bzfgthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11067060434661997784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-49223753373002381502020-03-23T08:36:29.257-07:002020-03-23T08:36:29.257-07:00New posts will be added semi-regularly!
The first...New posts will be added semi-regularly! <br />The first part of the New Potato jam on Anthem is from 3/17/68, but the rest is from one (or more) of the non-surviving shows, so it might never be identified. The answer may well still be in the Vault, though, at least in the form of tape notes for Anthem. Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-8312097761542821142020-03-22T11:10:31.166-07:002020-03-22T11:10:31.166-07:00First let me join the chorus of people who have vo...First let me join the chorus of people who have voiced huge admiration for your site,LIA. This truly is a magnificent and valuable resource for all grateful dead fans. Hope new posts are added regularly. My question (to anybody who might be able to provide an answer) is has anybody yet determined what other live versions of new potato caboose (other than the one from march 17th, 1968) were SixtiesRockRules!https://www.blogger.com/profile/05956726843378812964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-88307260501850756202018-09-05T23:51:01.450-07:002018-09-05T23:51:01.450-07:00the words are "above Madonna" Madonna is...the words are "above Madonna" Madonna is the alternate name for a mountain in San Luis Obispo. The real name is Cerro San Luis Obispo. So, the lyric "Above Madonna two eagles hang against a cloud" makes sense whereas the "Black Madonna..." does not.Pat Crowehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08395363368096698412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-88898298498994708712017-07-20T16:38:44.414-07:002017-07-20T16:38:44.414-07:00Just listened to this last night for the first tim...Just listened to this last night for the first time in 2 years. As a whole, that show is not too great but the New Potato jam is really peaceful. I hear a bit of a Clementine riff in there as well.Will Ruddockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05236741903558836229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-84549723342889344612015-10-24T23:25:54.071-07:002015-10-24T23:25:54.071-07:00That seems to be a unique lyric variation! I wish ...That seems to be a unique lyric variation! I wish we had more complete performances from late '68.Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-56157853130472101662015-10-23T17:21:22.351-07:002015-10-23T17:21:22.351-07:00Re: 11-22-68, that vintage audience recording is d...Re: 11-22-68, that vintage audience recording is definitely not an easy one to "dive into" but (1) there's far worse; and (2) the performance is incredible (the show is sans Billy -- according to some; I admit that I can not detect two drummers on the recording). Both the Dark Star and the Cryptical->OO->Cryptial->New Potato are very fine versions.<br /><br />At around 1:47Phill Bowlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06618053342927124902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-31162139360467188832014-04-24T12:36:15.430-07:002014-04-24T12:36:15.430-07:00It is certainly a great-sounding tape. Garcia'...It is certainly a great-sounding tape. Garcia's as lilting as ever, and it's nice to have the organ up in the mix. I still think this is a very laid-back performance. Some people tend to prefer the New Potato Cabooses of early '68, while I go more for the later versions. <br />I recommend the Alligator>Caution from 5/18/68, although the AUD sound is not very good.Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-88770724805495665162014-04-23T18:37:37.372-07:002014-04-23T18:37:37.372-07:00I want to comment on a version of New Potato Caboo...I want to comment on a version of New Potato Caboose. I appreciate the page you have set up here. Quite the thing to spend time reminiscing about my favorite band. The show I am referring to is listed by some as 4-3-68 Winterland. You and etree refer to it as 68-xx-xx. It is a 10:45 long version. To me it shows Jerry as a controlled yet improvisational wonder. You comment that he is not Peter K. Lansdale, PAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-71982962290217462542013-07-07T11:11:36.873-07:002013-07-07T11:11:36.873-07:00Thanks for writing. Several listeners have said th...Thanks for writing. Several listeners have said this theme sounded familiar - but no one's remembered where it came from! I also recognized it the first time I heard it, as something I'd heard when I was a kid (done by violins, I thought). But yes, calling it "classical" may be barking up the wrong tree; it could have been the theme to some show.Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-46989764087062724632013-07-07T10:39:57.926-07:002013-07-07T10:39:57.926-07:00About the 'classical theme' -- When I firs...About the 'classical theme' -- When I first played 'New Potato Caboose' on <i>Two From the Vault</i>, I noticed this theme, first teased at around 5.40, and recognised it as something that I heard on the BBC wireless when I was a little kid, it would have been in the early to mid-1960s. <br /><br />What really brought it home was the four note descending line/four note ascending Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-71041337032184746162013-03-22T13:16:05.503-07:002013-03-22T13:16:05.503-07:00Why yes, clicking on my name takes you to my blogg...Why yes, clicking on my name takes you to my blogger profile, which has an email contact.Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-11198185108986902132013-03-22T12:58:54.539-07:002013-03-22T12:58:54.539-07:00Light Into Ashes, I just wrote an article, with so...Light Into Ashes, I just wrote an article, with some help from my friends as to the lyrics of the song. Is there some place I could send it to you besides here?Will Ruddockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05236741903558836229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-21152618688817074972013-02-11T01:35:17.875-08:002013-02-11T01:35:17.875-08:00Thanks for the link; that was a fun piece! And a v...Thanks for the link; that was a fun piece! And a very tight band. <br />Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-39181554325401614052013-02-11T00:13:14.110-08:002013-02-11T00:13:14.110-08:00There are some elements of the 13s theme in Don El...There are some elements of the 13s theme in Don Ellis's "The Great Divide," which is also in 13. It appears on a live album recorded at the Fillmore in 1970 (http://www.melodycenta.com/flash_player/flash_black.php?type=1&id=3615700). No idea though when he began writing and performing it.<br /><br />But the theme is simple enough that I could imagine Lesh coming up with it Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14782881112232584683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-76143120691282698082012-03-07T11:56:19.678-08:002012-03-07T11:56:19.678-08:00NPC is a pretty hard song to grasp...it's inte...NPC is a pretty hard song to grasp...it's intentionally obscure, shapeless & difficult, as well as a challenge to play. Kind of like an early prog song! <br /><br />I think the "All Graceful Instruments" book was a collection of essays by scholars, not students? I admit, I haven't read it - I find those academic books on the Dead very difficult reading... Meriwether's Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-8310339324847185942012-03-06T18:21:54.322-08:002012-03-06T18:21:54.322-08:00I still don't have a good sense of NPC, musica...I still don't have a good sense of NPC, musically and lyrically. <br /><br />I did want to add here that the 'all graceful instruments' phrase was used for the title of a book by Nicholas Meriwether who is now the director of the Santa Cruz archive. He edited a series of papers written by college students about the Grateful Dead.Alex Mathewshttp://www.alexmathews.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-27111280624865965812011-12-14T19:36:24.169-08:002011-12-14T19:36:24.169-08:00Much to my grief, the classical piece that Phil qu...Much to my grief, the classical piece that Phil quotes in the late-'68 NPC bass solo has STILL not been identified! <br /><br />There has been some debate over this. <br />I have read queries from other people who've been struck by this solo - one writes, "No one has identified the classical piece that Phil drops in as a solo - I mean first time I heard I remember distinctly knowing Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-83342239542367376822011-08-28T11:37:11.667-07:002011-08-28T11:37:11.667-07:00One of the greatest songs the Dead ever did. Matur...One of the greatest songs the Dead ever did. Matured, like all their best songs, on the road it would be a very interesting exercise to have heard all their versions. (which I have no doubt we are missing a lot) Thats the thing about "the golden road" that annoys me somewhat. Whenever anyone quotes Deadbase they always say that particular song was only played 3 times. Well, like NPC theAriellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15217024397796056858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-64700622289215032512011-06-07T23:15:18.049-07:002011-06-07T23:15:18.049-07:00I love this site!!! Just a short comment in regard...I love this site!!! Just a short comment in regards to New Potato.. The lyrics are "A Black Madonna...", but Bobby clearly sings "Above my doorknob..."timhorpo"hotmail.comhttp://www.dead.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-508596483308849125.post-34313586626886950652011-03-25T21:14:29.673-07:002011-03-25T21:14:29.673-07:00Bob Weir on New Potato Caboose, in the 1992 Golden...Bob Weir on New Potato Caboose, in the 1992 Golden Road: <br /><br />"That was a collaborative effort; I worked on it with Phil and Garcia. The lyric was done by Bobby Peterson - he just handed us a lyric. I need a song to sing. 'Weir, take this lyric. We're going to make a song, and you're going to sing it.' We hammered on it for a couple of days and came up with it.<br />WeLight Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.com